Saturday, October 18, 2008
"They want all the fans to be like rabbits and sheep"
Flashback: March 1, 2007
This is what came to mind when I read Dave's account of being turfed from the Rexall pressbox for having the gall to update Covered in Oil while officially being there on other business.
Not to say I don't care about it, but the issues of New Media, This is the 21st Century, etc. are drums for others to beat, and if you scroll down to Links To This Post at the bottom of Dave's piece, you'll see that they're being beaten. Although it's worth underlining that, while Dave was reluctant to be categorical about it, it's as clear as Kevin Lowe's rapidly receding hairline that the problem was what Dave was writing, i.e. the exact same irreverent and unvarnished takes for which he is known and beloved, not that he was live-blogging. If he just was live-blogging scoring chances and who "looks sharp out there", he wouldn't have been touched -- no more than someone with EBERLE4EVER duck-taped to the back of his sweater would be called down into the bowels.
More than anything else, I just feel lousy for Dave. Apart from the fact that this was a pain in the ass professionally, there is no worse thing as a fan of a pro sports team than to be unavoidably confronted with the fact that, at root, it's extremely stupid. You're rooting for a private business who in the end will do whatever they damn well please for their own reasons, and occasionally exhibit, to use an old Cosh phrase, "the priggish imperiousness of a cop or civil servant".
And as much as I'd love to make this into a BoA-style "your poo stinks and mine doesn't" thing... no. There's a reason I've never attempted to contact the Flames organization, get a press pass, an interview, or the like. Actually, there's two reasons, the first of which is that I like this blog the way it is: it's personal, I don't owe anyone any favours, and I don't have to abide by anyone's rules and guidelines but my own.
But the other reason is that I really don't want to know what the response would be; I have no interest in them assessing the value (or not) of my contributions to Flames fandom, and I don't wish to be eyeballed skeptically like some kind of saboteur and/or troublemaking teenager. Like Dave was. He'll be missed and CiO won't be the same without him.
Robert Vaughan used orange duct tape to spell out “Trade Lowe” on the back of his jersey when he attended the Oilers-Phoenix Coyotes game Tuesday night at Rexall Place.
He says he was stopped and taken to a small room in the bowels of the arena where two men, identifying themselves as representatives of the Oilers, told him the sign was offensive to management. “They want all the fans to be like rabbits and sheep,” said Vaughan, who’s owned season tickets for six years and is considering whether to renew them. “I feel violated.”
Moments after he and his nephew walked into the main concourse, he says he was tapped on the shoulder by two men in suits. They identified themselves as representatives of the Oilers and asked Vaughan and his nephew to accompany them.
Vaughan says they were taken to a room where the men told him to rip off the duct tape. He said he refused and tried walking to the door, when one of the broad-shouldered men blocked it. “He bluntly said I was not going to leave with that written on my back,” said Vaughan. “I said, ‘Are you threatening me?’ ”
[...]“I’m choked,” Vaughan said. “I’m extremely disappointed and I want a letter of apology from the Oilers. I bleed copper and blue. They took away my freedom of speech.” [...] “I was venting,” he said.
The Oilers did not return repeated phone calls yesterday.
This is what came to mind when I read Dave's account of being turfed from the Rexall pressbox for having the gall to update Covered in Oil while officially being there on other business.
Not to say I don't care about it, but the issues of New Media, This is the 21st Century, etc. are drums for others to beat, and if you scroll down to Links To This Post at the bottom of Dave's piece, you'll see that they're being beaten. Although it's worth underlining that, while Dave was reluctant to be categorical about it, it's as clear as Kevin Lowe's rapidly receding hairline that the problem was what Dave was writing, i.e. the exact same irreverent and unvarnished takes for which he is known and beloved, not that he was live-blogging. If he just was live-blogging scoring chances and who "looks sharp out there", he wouldn't have been touched -- no more than someone with EBERLE4EVER duck-taped to the back of his sweater would be called down into the bowels.
More than anything else, I just feel lousy for Dave. Apart from the fact that this was a pain in the ass professionally, there is no worse thing as a fan of a pro sports team than to be unavoidably confronted with the fact that, at root, it's extremely stupid. You're rooting for a private business who in the end will do whatever they damn well please for their own reasons, and occasionally exhibit, to use an old Cosh phrase, "the priggish imperiousness of a cop or civil servant".
And as much as I'd love to make this into a BoA-style "your poo stinks and mine doesn't" thing... no. There's a reason I've never attempted to contact the Flames organization, get a press pass, an interview, or the like. Actually, there's two reasons, the first of which is that I like this blog the way it is: it's personal, I don't owe anyone any favours, and I don't have to abide by anyone's rules and guidelines but my own.
But the other reason is that I really don't want to know what the response would be; I have no interest in them assessing the value (or not) of my contributions to Flames fandom, and I don't wish to be eyeballed skeptically like some kind of saboteur and/or troublemaking teenager. Like Dave was. He'll be missed and CiO won't be the same without him.
Comments:
I understand that they objected to the tone of the live blog -- let's be honest, here, it was unprofessional and probably not the sort of thing you should advertise that you're writing from the press box -- but throwing him out was more than a bit much here.
Because, really, he could have been irreverent and honest without snide shots at upper brass and F-bombs.
I'm going to miss Covered in Oil's constant sexual tension. Mike and Chris! have some shoes to fill.
"Trade Lowe" can't hire a lawyer, he was on Oiler's property in Oilers' clothing trademarked with Oilers' logos.
"Trade Lowe" can't hire a lawyer, he was on Oiler's property in Oilers' clothing trademarked with Oilers' logos.
I hope to god that this is an unfunny joke.
Well that's my understanding of it. It's like vandalising Legal Tender. I guess what I meant was that he can hire a lawyer all he wants but it won't do much if anything.
I should have been more clear.
let's be honest, here, it was unprofessional and probably not the sort of thing you should advertise that you're writing from the press box
Unprofessional? Well then there's a bunch of unprofessional reporters out there, because tons of people do it. See Sager's post for a handful of examples.
Whether or not they could kick out of the game would depend on the terms of the arrangement with him. It would require interpretation of the terms on the back of the ticket. They're usually pretty far-reaching but I know if they're that broad.
I can't imagine that there's anything that would permit them to lock him in a room for 25 minutes when he hasn't committed any sort of offence.
I can't imagine that there's anything that would permit them to lock him in a room for 25 minutes when he hasn't committed any sort of offence.
I didn't realise that they had him in the room for 25 minutes. That's rather unlawful, isn't it?
Yeah, just a little bit. If Trade Lowe was a bit more litigious, thta would have been a fun small claims case.
Now the question is:
How does "Trade Lowe" prove what he needs to prove? Just curious. I believe him, but the judge might not.
He swears an oath and gives his evidence. The persons who kept him in the room would have a chance to give their evidence. The judge would then decide.
Unprofessional? Well then there's a bunch of unprofessional reporters out there, because tons of people do it.
I meant the tone, obviously. You did read the second paragraph, right?
@raventalon40: I'm sorry, maybe its the fact that I grew up in the United States and still live there, but a fan will do what a fan will do, and it is their right as a paying customer to complain about the way their favorite team is handling matters. Mangement finds it offensive? The truth hurts, doesn't it Lowe? I'm a Penguins fan first as I grew up outside of Pittsburgh, but the Oilers have been another one of my favorite teams for several years. That being said, I haven't paid them much mind since Lowe took over and just started forking out the cash for any slightly above avereage player that came along in the off-season. I don't know how well you Canadians follow baseball, especially in Western Canada where there are no MLB teams, so this point might miss the mark. The professional baseball team in my beloved home city of Pittsburgh has been a disgrace for the last 17 years, with 17 consecutive losing seasons. People are showing up to the games with bags over their face and shirts that read "Irate Fan" instead of "Pirate Fan" Granted they aren't on officially team licensed merchandise, but do they get kicked out? No. Honestly, the Oilers organization should have the joke on the fan who had the Trade Lowe in duct tape on his jersey because he gave money to the team by buying it and going to the game.
On the more serious note, I believe they revoked Dave Berry's press pass for blogging so they could sell that press box to the highest bidder to continue to overplay for players who don't live up to their salary.
Please people, do not hate me for saying these things, I still have some love for the Oilers, but they are doing things wrong and you the fans should not put up with it. Please take this is an outsider's non-tainted view of your beloved team's front office. Good day.
(法新社倫敦四日電) 英國情色大亨芮孟的公司昨天說,芮孟日前去世日本av,享壽成人電影八十二歲;這位身價上億的房地產開發商,曾經在倫成人網站敦推出第一場脫衣舞表演。色情
芮孟的財產估成人網站計達sex六億a片下載五千萬色情英鎊(台幣將近四百億)成人光碟,由於情色他名下事業大多分布在情色視訊倫敦夜生活區蘇活區,因此擁有「成人影片蘇活之王」的稱號。
他部落格的av公司「保羅芮孟集團」旗下成人影片發成人行多種情色雜誌,包括成人網站「avRazAV片zle」、「男性世情色界a片」以及情色電影「Mayfair」。
芮色情影片孟本名傑av女優福瑞.安東尼.成人電影奎恩,父親av為搬情色電影運承包商。芮孟av女優十五歲離開學校,矢言要在表演事a片業成人影片留名,起先部落格表演讀心術,後來成為巡迴歌舞雜耍表演的部落格製a片作人。
a片下載許多評論家認為,他把情色表演帶進a片主流社會色情,一九五九年主持破天荒的脫衣舞表演,後來更靠著在蘇活區與倫av敦av女優西區開發房地產賺得大筆財色情a片富。
有人形容avdvd芮孟是英成人國的海夫納,地位等同美國的「花花公子」創辦人海夫納。
(法新社a倫敦二B十WE四日電) 「情色二零零七成人影片」情趣情色產品大產自二十色情三日起在倫敦的肯辛頓奧林匹亞AV女優展覽館舉行,倫敦人擺脫對性的保守A片態度踴躍參觀,成人影片許多穿成人網站皮衣與塑膠緊身衣的好色之徒擠進這項世界規模最大的成人生活展,估計三天展期可吸引八萬多好奇民眾參觀。
情色電影活動計畫負責人米里根承諾:「要搞浪漫、誘惑人、玩虐待,你渴望的我們都有。」
他說:「時髦的設計與華麗女裝,從吊飾到束腹到真人大小的雕塑,是我們由a片今年展出的數千件產品精選出的一情色部分,參展產品還包括時尚服飾、貼身女用內在美、鞋子、珠寶、玩具、影片、藝術成人電影、圖書及遊戲,更不要說性愛輔具及馬術裝備。成人電影」
色情參觀民眾遊覽兩百五十多個攤位,成人網站有性情色電影感服裝、玩具及情色食品,迎合各種品味。
大舞台上AV表演的是美國野蠻搖滾歌手瑪莉蓮曼a片下載森的前妻─av全世界頭牌脫衣舞孃黛塔范提思,這是她今年在英國唯一一場表演。
以一九四零年代色情影片風a片格演出的黛塔范提思表演性感的天堂鳥、旋轉木馬及羽扇A片下載等舞蹈。
參展攤位有的推廣情趣用av女優品,有的公開展示人體藝術和人體雕塑,也有情色藝術家工會成員提供建議。
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I understand that they objected to the tone of the live blog -- let's be honest, here, it was unprofessional and probably not the sort of thing you should advertise that you're writing from the press box -- but throwing him out was more than a bit much here.
Because, really, he could have been irreverent and honest without snide shots at upper brass and F-bombs.
I'm going to miss Covered in Oil's constant sexual tension. Mike and Chris! have some shoes to fill.
"Trade Lowe" can't hire a lawyer, he was on Oiler's property in Oilers' clothing trademarked with Oilers' logos.
"Trade Lowe" can't hire a lawyer, he was on Oiler's property in Oilers' clothing trademarked with Oilers' logos.
I hope to god that this is an unfunny joke.
Well that's my understanding of it. It's like vandalising Legal Tender. I guess what I meant was that he can hire a lawyer all he wants but it won't do much if anything.
I should have been more clear.
let's be honest, here, it was unprofessional and probably not the sort of thing you should advertise that you're writing from the press box
Unprofessional? Well then there's a bunch of unprofessional reporters out there, because tons of people do it. See Sager's post for a handful of examples.
Whether or not they could kick out of the game would depend on the terms of the arrangement with him. It would require interpretation of the terms on the back of the ticket. They're usually pretty far-reaching but I know if they're that broad.
I can't imagine that there's anything that would permit them to lock him in a room for 25 minutes when he hasn't committed any sort of offence.
I can't imagine that there's anything that would permit them to lock him in a room for 25 minutes when he hasn't committed any sort of offence.
I didn't realise that they had him in the room for 25 minutes. That's rather unlawful, isn't it?
Yeah, just a little bit. If Trade Lowe was a bit more litigious, thta would have been a fun small claims case.
Now the question is:
How does "Trade Lowe" prove what he needs to prove? Just curious. I believe him, but the judge might not.
He swears an oath and gives his evidence. The persons who kept him in the room would have a chance to give their evidence. The judge would then decide.
Unprofessional? Well then there's a bunch of unprofessional reporters out there, because tons of people do it.
I meant the tone, obviously. You did read the second paragraph, right?
@raventalon40: I'm sorry, maybe its the fact that I grew up in the United States and still live there, but a fan will do what a fan will do, and it is their right as a paying customer to complain about the way their favorite team is handling matters. Mangement finds it offensive? The truth hurts, doesn't it Lowe? I'm a Penguins fan first as I grew up outside of Pittsburgh, but the Oilers have been another one of my favorite teams for several years. That being said, I haven't paid them much mind since Lowe took over and just started forking out the cash for any slightly above avereage player that came along in the off-season. I don't know how well you Canadians follow baseball, especially in Western Canada where there are no MLB teams, so this point might miss the mark. The professional baseball team in my beloved home city of Pittsburgh has been a disgrace for the last 17 years, with 17 consecutive losing seasons. People are showing up to the games with bags over their face and shirts that read "Irate Fan" instead of "Pirate Fan" Granted they aren't on officially team licensed merchandise, but do they get kicked out? No. Honestly, the Oilers organization should have the joke on the fan who had the Trade Lowe in duct tape on his jersey because he gave money to the team by buying it and going to the game.
On the more serious note, I believe they revoked Dave Berry's press pass for blogging so they could sell that press box to the highest bidder to continue to overplay for players who don't live up to their salary.
Please people, do not hate me for saying these things, I still have some love for the Oilers, but they are doing things wrong and you the fans should not put up with it. Please take this is an outsider's non-tainted view of your beloved team's front office. Good day.
(法新社倫敦四日電) 英國情色大亨芮孟的公司昨天說,芮孟日前去世日本av,享壽成人電影八十二歲;這位身價上億的房地產開發商,曾經在倫成人網站敦推出第一場脫衣舞表演。色情
芮孟的財產估成人網站計達sex六億a片下載五千萬色情英鎊(台幣將近四百億)成人光碟,由於情色他名下事業大多分布在情色視訊倫敦夜生活區蘇活區,因此擁有「成人影片蘇活之王」的稱號。
他部落格的av公司「保羅芮孟集團」旗下成人影片發成人行多種情色雜誌,包括成人網站「avRazAV片zle」、「男性世情色界a片」以及情色電影「Mayfair」。
芮色情影片孟本名傑av女優福瑞.安東尼.成人電影奎恩,父親av為搬情色電影運承包商。芮孟av女優十五歲離開學校,矢言要在表演事a片業成人影片留名,起先部落格表演讀心術,後來成為巡迴歌舞雜耍表演的部落格製a片作人。
a片下載許多評論家認為,他把情色表演帶進a片主流社會色情,一九五九年主持破天荒的脫衣舞表演,後來更靠著在蘇活區與倫av敦av女優西區開發房地產賺得大筆財色情a片富。
有人形容avdvd芮孟是英成人國的海夫納,地位等同美國的「花花公子」創辦人海夫納。
(法新社a倫敦二B十WE四日電) 「情色二零零七成人影片」情趣情色產品大產自二十色情三日起在倫敦的肯辛頓奧林匹亞AV女優展覽館舉行,倫敦人擺脫對性的保守A片態度踴躍參觀,成人影片許多穿成人網站皮衣與塑膠緊身衣的好色之徒擠進這項世界規模最大的成人生活展,估計三天展期可吸引八萬多好奇民眾參觀。
情色電影活動計畫負責人米里根承諾:「要搞浪漫、誘惑人、玩虐待,你渴望的我們都有。」
他說:「時髦的設計與華麗女裝,從吊飾到束腹到真人大小的雕塑,是我們由a片今年展出的數千件產品精選出的一情色部分,參展產品還包括時尚服飾、貼身女用內在美、鞋子、珠寶、玩具、影片、藝術成人電影、圖書及遊戲,更不要說性愛輔具及馬術裝備。成人電影」
色情參觀民眾遊覽兩百五十多個攤位,成人網站有性情色電影感服裝、玩具及情色食品,迎合各種品味。
大舞台上AV表演的是美國野蠻搖滾歌手瑪莉蓮曼a片下載森的前妻─av全世界頭牌脫衣舞孃黛塔范提思,這是她今年在英國唯一一場表演。
以一九四零年代色情影片風a片格演出的黛塔范提思表演性感的天堂鳥、旋轉木馬及羽扇A片下載等舞蹈。
參展攤位有的推廣情趣用av女優品,有的公開展示人體藝術和人體雕塑,也有情色藝術家工會成員提供建議。
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