Monday, February 26, 2007
Flames/Yotes: Open Thread
Matt and the family must still be on Vacation ("look kids, it's Big Ben"), so I'll just throw this up. Georges Laraque has been told he won't be playing for the Coyotes again, and has been a healthy scratch since the 19th. Rumours persist that he is going to Penguins, but it also appears that it is the Coyotes perpetuating those rumours, in the hopes of getting Pittsburgh to deal. I will point out that the year that the Oilers roster has been decimated by injuries coincides with the year Le GG isn't on the roster, but I'm sure there is no causal relationship there. It's all in my mind. It also appears that Kevin Lowe is content with telling Oilers fans there are no deals to be made at the trade deadline, while all the while teams like the Flames and Canucks have been working to improve their roster. Everyone's going to be so drunk off of the Messier punch that it will be Wednesday morning before they go, "hey, what the hell happened to our season?" It kind of makes you wonder if it was planned to be this way all along. But again, that's just another crazy idea rolling around my mind. Spector and Mirtle have all the action on the moves the Oilers aren't making (it at least looks like we'll finally have an end to Temujin's crazy Smyth rantings, as the Nucks have just acquired Smolinksi and Sopel). GOYOTES!
# posted by andy grabia @ 6:14 pm 
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I know you wouldn't break the bank to get him, but wouldn't Sopel look pretty good for the Oil?
Exactly, and if you're LA wouldn't the Oilers 2nd and 4th look better than Vancouver's?
Hahaha, well, at least the Canucks have a bonafide mullet in their line-up once more. Too bad it wasn't Smyth's mullet, but oh well.
And Smolinski is no slouch either. I like both of those deals because it addresses the very issues that needed addressing.
It also appears that Kevin Lowe is content with telling Oilers fans there are no deals to be made at the trade deadline, while all the while teams like the Flames and Canucks have been working to improve their roster.
How the hell has Edmonton not made any major moves? It's utterly baffling to me, and I'm an outsider. You must just be ready to explode in righteous anger. If Smyth doesn't have a new contract in place tomorrow I seriously think you should organize some sort of non-violent (or violent) protest in front of Rexall Place. If you can collect over $500 for the MacT fund, surely you could get a couple hundred people with signs to march down Wayne Gretzky Drive.
The Flames PP is as good as their defensive zone coverage is bad recently.
Same thing tonight so far. Luckily, they're playing an AHL caliber team, so they happen to be up by 2 after the first. But...sheesh they look terrible in their own end.
>Too bad it wasn't Smyth's mullet, but oh well.
You're still going with that joke? Jesus.
Unfortunately, Phoenix isn't up for doing the Oilers any favours. An even better reason to layoff the UFA Sopels of the league.
The Flames are a polar opposite under Playfair of what they were under Sutter.
Before, they were outstanding defensively but challenged offensively. Now, they're scoring a lot, but they're unbelievably sloppy in their own end.
Add that to a horrible road record and a likely first round matchup with one of Nashville/Anaheim/Vancover, and I think the Flames are against the odds to win even one playoff round this spring. Calgary's best hope might be to finish 8th and hope Detroit overttakes Nashville for first in the conference.
Yes, Brent Sopel is exactly what the Oilers need. I mean, the only thing that stops this team from making the playoffs is a rock-stupid defenseman with a big shot and possibly the ugliest face in hockey history. It would also address the Oilers' glaring lack of bottom-three defensemen and balance out their excess of top-end talent.
Seriously, I see no reason to waste a single draft pick on that sort of "solution". We'd be about where we are today except with less future, and how does that help?
Nice to see the Flames lock it down in the 3rd so far. They looked sloppy in the 1st, but have looked much better since. I get the feeling they are starting to turn the defensive issues around.
One question, what the hell was Warrener doing on the ice on the PK in the 2nd? The game was still close at that point, and he's been their 6th best d-man lately. He's getting beat all over the ice.
Also, Roger Millions is just terrible. Does he think we're listening to him on the radio and can't see when he describes a play completely differently from how it happens? What a motard.
Okay Oilers fans, now you can talk about your lost season some more in a Flames thread. Enjoy the 60 minutes of Mess-turbation tomorrow.
The Sopel envy on this thread is becoming unbearable. Sopel may be a bottom three D-man on the Canucks, but only because we've got Salo, Ohlund, Mitchell and some kid named Bieksa. On any other team (save Anaheim and perhaps Calgary) he is a bonafide #3. Certainly he was #3 behind Blake and Visnovsky in LA.
An even better reason to layoff the UFA Sopels of the league.
Sopel is going to re-sign in Vancouver at the end of the season. He said he was ecstatic to be returning to Vancouver, and he said on the "team 1040" Pratt and Taylor show that he wants to finish his career here.
Smolinski will be a UFA in July and probably will not return to the Canucks, but you never know. All they gave up for him was a 2nd round pick.
Come on, Lord Bob, you can't possibly be all that excited about Denis Grebeshkov. There's your bottom three D-man right there :-)
Come on, Lord Bob, you can't possibly be all that excited about Denis Grebeshkov. There's your bottom three D-man right there :-)
I've written a bit about Grebeshkov and I intend to write more, but suffice to say that if Grebeshkov is a bottom-three, he's a bottom-three for the future where he might come in handy, not for now when this team isn't going anywhere. Unlike Sopel, who would help us fail more or less the same amount for a few games before signing in Vancouver as you say.
I should clarify that I think Sopel is a bottom three on an average NHL team. He'd probably the Oilers' third-best defenseman behind Smith and the Playa Hejda, for what that's worth.
Seriously, I see no reason to waste a single draft pick on that sort of "solution".
You have a lot more confidence in 2nd and 4th round draft picks than I do. And how many more prospects do we need? We could fill the roster right now with an entire team of potential superstars. Hoarding can only go on for so long before it's just silly.
All that being said, Berard was put on waivers today, He wouldn't cost anything but cap space, which the Oilers have plenty of. He's got to be better than having Toby Petersen on the PP.
You have a lot more confidence in 2nd and 4th round draft picks than I do. And how many more prospects do we need? We could fill the roster right now with an entire team of potential superstars. Hoarding can only go on for so long before it's just silly.
I happen to believe that the value of Sopel to the Edmonton Oilers is very nearly zero. In all reasonable probability he will not get this team into the playoffs this year and he will not participate with this team next year. Therefore, he has absolutely no value. A second and a fourth, however, occasionally turn into Matt Greenes and Tom Gilberts, unlike unrestricted free agents who failed to achieve anything of note.
All that being said, Berard was put on waivers today, He wouldn't cost anything but cap space, which the Oilers have plenty of. He's got to be better than having Toby Petersen on the PP.
On the other hand, the value of constantly unused salary cap space is zero, and so I fully support grabbing the Cyclops and seeing what he can do.
>Enjoy the 60 minutes of Mess-turbation tomorrow.
Thanks, we will!
(Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?)
(Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?)
"I'm very glad to be in Edmonton (sniff), I promised Gretz I wouldn't do this..."
My bet is never. Seeing how much of an asshole he's supposed to be, we'll be lucky if he turns up at all instead of spending the day driving a dagger into Glen Sather's back. :P
I forgot to mention in this post that in March the Flames play 5 home games, and 9 road games. Could be a painful month for both Alberta teams.
Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?
Zero to tears to 5 seconds. It already happened today, several times. Oh and seeing the Moose singing Elvis....priceless.
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I know you wouldn't break the bank to get him, but wouldn't Sopel look pretty good for the Oil?
# posted by 
: February 26, 2007 6:48 pm
: February 26, 2007 6:48 pm 
Exactly, and if you're LA wouldn't the Oilers 2nd and 4th look better than Vancouver's?
# posted by : February 26, 2007 8:02 pm
: February 26, 2007 8:02 pm Hahaha, well, at least the Canucks have a bonafide mullet in their line-up once more. Too bad it wasn't Smyth's mullet, but oh well.
And Smolinski is no slouch either. I like both of those deals because it addresses the very issues that needed addressing.
It also appears that Kevin Lowe is content with telling Oilers fans there are no deals to be made at the trade deadline, while all the while teams like the Flames and Canucks have been working to improve their roster.
How the hell has Edmonton not made any major moves? It's utterly baffling to me, and I'm an outsider. You must just be ready to explode in righteous anger. If Smyth doesn't have a new contract in place tomorrow I seriously think you should organize some sort of non-violent (or violent) protest in front of Rexall Place. If you can collect over $500 for the MacT fund, surely you could get a couple hundred people with signs to march down Wayne Gretzky Drive.
The Flames PP is as good as their defensive zone coverage is bad recently.
Same thing tonight so far. Luckily, they're playing an AHL caliber team, so they happen to be up by 2 after the first. But...sheesh they look terrible in their own end.
>Too bad it wasn't Smyth's mullet, but oh well.
You're still going with that joke? Jesus.
Unfortunately, Phoenix isn't up for doing the Oilers any favours. An even better reason to layoff the UFA Sopels of the league.
The Flames are a polar opposite under Playfair of what they were under Sutter.
Before, they were outstanding defensively but challenged offensively. Now, they're scoring a lot, but they're unbelievably sloppy in their own end.
Add that to a horrible road record and a likely first round matchup with one of Nashville/Anaheim/Vancover, and I think the Flames are against the odds to win even one playoff round this spring. Calgary's best hope might be to finish 8th and hope Detroit overttakes Nashville for first in the conference.
Yes, Brent Sopel is exactly what the Oilers need. I mean, the only thing that stops this team from making the playoffs is a rock-stupid defenseman with a big shot and possibly the ugliest face in hockey history. It would also address the Oilers' glaring lack of bottom-three defensemen and balance out their excess of top-end talent.
Seriously, I see no reason to waste a single draft pick on that sort of "solution". We'd be about where we are today except with less future, and how does that help?
# posted by : February 26, 2007 9:31 pm
: February 26, 2007 9:31 pm Nice to see the Flames lock it down in the 3rd so far. They looked sloppy in the 1st, but have looked much better since. I get the feeling they are starting to turn the defensive issues around.
One question, what the hell was Warrener doing on the ice on the PK in the 2nd? The game was still close at that point, and he's been their 6th best d-man lately. He's getting beat all over the ice.
Also, Roger Millions is just terrible. Does he think we're listening to him on the radio and can't see when he describes a play completely differently from how it happens? What a motard.
Okay Oilers fans, now you can talk about your lost season some more in a Flames thread. Enjoy the 60 minutes of Mess-turbation tomorrow.
The Sopel envy on this thread is becoming unbearable. Sopel may be a bottom three D-man on the Canucks, but only because we've got Salo, Ohlund, Mitchell and some kid named Bieksa. On any other team (save Anaheim and perhaps Calgary) he is a bonafide #3. Certainly he was #3 behind Blake and Visnovsky in LA.
An even better reason to layoff the UFA Sopels of the league.
Sopel is going to re-sign in Vancouver at the end of the season. He said he was ecstatic to be returning to Vancouver, and he said on the "team 1040" Pratt and Taylor show that he wants to finish his career here.
Smolinski will be a UFA in July and probably will not return to the Canucks, but you never know. All they gave up for him was a 2nd round pick.
Come on, Lord Bob, you can't possibly be all that excited about Denis Grebeshkov. There's your bottom three D-man right there :-)
Come on, Lord Bob, you can't possibly be all that excited about Denis Grebeshkov. There's your bottom three D-man right there :-)
I've written a bit about Grebeshkov and I intend to write more, but suffice to say that if Grebeshkov is a bottom-three, he's a bottom-three for the future where he might come in handy, not for now when this team isn't going anywhere. Unlike Sopel, who would help us fail more or less the same amount for a few games before signing in Vancouver as you say.
I should clarify that I think Sopel is a bottom three on an average NHL team. He'd probably the Oilers' third-best defenseman behind Smith and the Playa Hejda, for what that's worth.
# posted by : February 26, 2007 9:59 pm
: February 26, 2007 9:59 pm Seriously, I see no reason to waste a single draft pick on that sort of "solution".
You have a lot more confidence in 2nd and 4th round draft picks than I do. And how many more prospects do we need? We could fill the roster right now with an entire team of potential superstars. Hoarding can only go on for so long before it's just silly.
All that being said, Berard was put on waivers today, He wouldn't cost anything but cap space, which the Oilers have plenty of. He's got to be better than having Toby Petersen on the PP.
You have a lot more confidence in 2nd and 4th round draft picks than I do. And how many more prospects do we need? We could fill the roster right now with an entire team of potential superstars. Hoarding can only go on for so long before it's just silly.
I happen to believe that the value of Sopel to the Edmonton Oilers is very nearly zero. In all reasonable probability he will not get this team into the playoffs this year and he will not participate with this team next year. Therefore, he has absolutely no value. A second and a fourth, however, occasionally turn into Matt Greenes and Tom Gilberts, unlike unrestricted free agents who failed to achieve anything of note.
All that being said, Berard was put on waivers today, He wouldn't cost anything but cap space, which the Oilers have plenty of. He's got to be better than having Toby Petersen on the PP.
On the other hand, the value of constantly unused salary cap space is zero, and so I fully support grabbing the Cyclops and seeing what he can do.
# posted by : February 26, 2007 10:15 pm
: February 26, 2007 10:15 pm >Enjoy the 60 minutes of Mess-turbation tomorrow.
Thanks, we will!
(Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?)
(Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?)
"I'm very glad to be in Edmonton (sniff), I promised Gretz I wouldn't do this..."
My bet is never. Seeing how much of an asshole he's supposed to be, we'll be lucky if he turns up at all instead of spending the day driving a dagger into Glen Sather's back. :P
# posted by : February 26, 2007 11:11 pm
: February 26, 2007 11:11 pm I forgot to mention in this post that in March the Flames play 5 home games, and 9 road games. Could be a painful month for both Alberta teams.
Anyone want to start a pool on quickly Mess will turn into a blubbering crybaby?
Zero to tears to 5 seconds. It already happened today, several times. Oh and seeing the Moose singing Elvis....priceless.
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