Thursday, March 09, 2006
Samsonov is an Oiler [updated again]
Hey, hey, hey. Great news. D-vo isn't going anywhere.
The bad news is that the other object of my unwarranted man-crush affections -- Marty Reasoner - is gonzo along with a draft pick and a "non-roster player" whatever that is.
As I've said on numerous occasions, Reasoner provides the kind of instant chemistry/do anything type of player that is hard to replace. But . . . I'm over it.
A few questions:
- How much did Samsonov benefit playing with Thornton?
- A UFA who didn't want to be traded sounds like a rental to me. Is Reasoner, a draft pick and a Yan Stastny the price of a rental? Or do we think that Samsonov can be re-signed?
Man, has Kevin Lowe had a big year or what?
Thoughts?
SAMSONOV - 27 years old
| Career Statistics | |||||||||||||||||
| YEAR | TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | SOG | SPCT | PPG | PPA | SHG | SHA | GWG | GTG | ATOI | PROD |
| 1997-1998 | BOS | 81 | 22 | 25 | 47 | 9 | 8 | 159 | 13.8 | 7 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0:00 | 0:00 |
| 1998-1999 | BOS | 79 | 25 | 26 | 51 | -6 | 18 | 160 | 15.6 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 1 | 0:00 | 0:00 |
| 1999-2000 | BOS | 77 | 19 | 26 | 45 | -6 | 4 | 145 | 13.1 | 6 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0:00 | 0:00 |
| 2000-2001 | BOS | 82 | 29 | 46 | 75 | 6 | 18 | 215 | 13.5 | 3 | 15 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0:00 | 0:00 |
| 2001-2002 | BOS | 74 | 29 | 41 | 70 | 21 | 27 | 192 | 15.1 | 3 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0:00 | 0:00 |
| 2002-2003 | BOS | 8 | 5 | 6 | 11 | 8 | 2 | 23 | 21.7 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 20:20 | 14:47 |
| 2003-2004 | BOS | 58 | 17 | 23 | 40 | 12 | 4 | 132 | 12.9 | 3 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 17:27 | 25:18 |
| 2005-2006 | BOS | 55 | 18 | 19 | 37 | -3 | 22 | 107 | 16.8 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 16:53 | 25:05 |
| Career | -- | 514 | 164 | 212 | 376 | 41 | 103 | 1133 | 14.5 | 35 | 77 | 0 | 1 | 30 | 4 | -- | -- |
# posted by sacamano @ 1:11 pm 
Comments:
What about the blockbuster between Detroit and Pittsburgh? Cory Cross is going to be a Red Wing. Now I seriously hope the Oilers end up playing Detroit in the playoffs.
I like the Samsonov deal. D-vo wasn't missed at all during his injury. It just sucks for Sacamano because he loved to take D-vo in his predictions for goals.
He is a rental -- he is UFA this summer and he he's looking for a big pay day. Dvorak is a price to pay for a rental. Especially when it only guarantees a first round playoff defeat.
Sportsnet reports that the deal is for Reasoner, a draft pick and a "non-roster" player...where did you hear Dvo was going the other way?
now there's rumours that McCammond is going to edmonton...
team 1260 just reported it.
Holy shit.
Look at the D-men Vancouver picked up. Carney, Weinrich
Willie Mitchell in Dallas
Calgary picked up Jamie Lundmark
Mirtle is reporting that the Oil have picked up McCammond as well, but no news of what they gave up for him. TSN is reporting that the "non-roster player" is Yan Stastny, which sucks.
I thought I just heard that the McAmmond deal didn't get done in time and was rejected by the League.
I heard MacKenzie say the McAmmond thing was a no-go as well.
Samsonov has a lot of one on one skill, and IIRC, Glen Murray was the guy most affected by Thornton moving. He's an upgrade to the top two lines, and if you have Peca ahead of Reasoner on the depth chart, the Oilers didn't give up a player in their top 9 forwards, kept all their D, and didn't really thin out the prospect pool. Lowe did a fair bit better than OK for himself.
Well, now that Lundmark is on the Flames, i'm not sure who improved more, Edmonton or Calgary.....
Besides, did we really need another Oilers alumni? Especially someone that would just fill another spot on an already crowded fourth line.
Not really sad about Reasoner, but Stastny showed promise.
Man,
I hate to see Reasoner go, but Samsanov, one time projected to be #1 overall, will help the Oil. They need a guy who can put the puck in the net consistently. He could be like Nedved a couple years ago and really play his ass off if he's looking for a better deal, or he could be a bust. Who knows?
I know I lost a lot of $$$$ on those Samsanov prospect cards!
Calgary Flames trade Jason Weimer to New Jersey for a fourth round draft pick.
Yes!
That's all he cost us? Reasoner and a player the Bruins had already? Awesome. Samsonov is sick. A great play maker. His only downside-and it is substantial-is that he is injured often.
All we need from Sammy is 20 regular season games--and 16 wins in the playoffs, however long that takes.
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What about the blockbuster between Detroit and Pittsburgh? Cory Cross is going to be a Red Wing. Now I seriously hope the Oilers end up playing Detroit in the playoffs.
I like the Samsonov deal. D-vo wasn't missed at all during his injury. It just sucks for Sacamano because he loved to take D-vo in his predictions for goals.
He is a rental -- he is UFA this summer and he he's looking for a big pay day. Dvorak is a price to pay for a rental. Especially when it only guarantees a first round playoff defeat.
Sportsnet reports that the deal is for Reasoner, a draft pick and a "non-roster" player...where did you hear Dvo was going the other way?
# posted by 
: March 09, 2006 1:37 pm
: March 09, 2006 1:37 pm now there's rumours that McCammond is going to edmonton...
team 1260 just reported it.
# posted by : March 09, 2006 1:51 pm
: March 09, 2006 1:51 pm Holy shit.
Look at the D-men Vancouver picked up. Carney, Weinrich
Willie Mitchell in Dallas
Calgary picked up Jamie Lundmark
# posted by : March 09, 2006 1:51 pm
: March 09, 2006 1:51 pm Mirtle is reporting that the Oil have picked up McCammond as well, but no news of what they gave up for him. TSN is reporting that the "non-roster player" is Yan Stastny, which sucks.
# posted by : March 09, 2006 1:58 pm
: March 09, 2006 1:58 pm I thought I just heard that the McAmmond deal didn't get done in time and was rejected by the League.
I heard MacKenzie say the McAmmond thing was a no-go as well.
Samsonov has a lot of one on one skill, and IIRC, Glen Murray was the guy most affected by Thornton moving. He's an upgrade to the top two lines, and if you have Peca ahead of Reasoner on the depth chart, the Oilers didn't give up a player in their top 9 forwards, kept all their D, and didn't really thin out the prospect pool. Lowe did a fair bit better than OK for himself.
# posted by : March 09, 2006 2:12 pm
: March 09, 2006 2:12 pm Well, now that Lundmark is on the Flames, i'm not sure who improved more, Edmonton or Calgary.....
# posted by : March 09, 2006 2:19 pm
: March 09, 2006 2:19 pm Besides, did we really need another Oilers alumni? Especially someone that would just fill another spot on an already crowded fourth line.
Not really sad about Reasoner, but Stastny showed promise.
# posted by : March 09, 2006 2:30 pm
: March 09, 2006 2:30 pm Man,
I hate to see Reasoner go, but Samsanov, one time projected to be #1 overall, will help the Oil. They need a guy who can put the puck in the net consistently. He could be like Nedved a couple years ago and really play his ass off if he's looking for a better deal, or he could be a bust. Who knows?
I know I lost a lot of $$$$ on those Samsanov prospect cards!
Calgary Flames trade Jason Weimer to New Jersey for a fourth round draft pick.
Yes!
# posted by : March 09, 2006 3:00 pm
: March 09, 2006 3:00 pm That's all he cost us? Reasoner and a player the Bruins had already? Awesome. Samsonov is sick. A great play maker. His only downside-and it is substantial-is that he is injured often.
All we need from Sammy is 20 regular season games--and 16 wins in the playoffs, however long that takes.
# posted by : March 09, 2006 7:51 pm
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